Over a nice cup of Earl Grey, Lou and I have our second conversation on Common Law Constitutions - this time with an emphasis on America.


I hope all listeners find this interesting. After listening again, we seemed to cover quite a lot of the same ground as in our first discussion! Sorry to be repetitive but I suppose that's a good thing in a way.

Here's the info about Kenn D'Oudney's Democracy Defined campaign on the BCG website (with links to Amazon for the Democracy Defined book):


Here's the direct link to Kenn's own campaign site - you must look through this, it's a gold mine of information!...


Some important points about our discussion:

I couldn't remember in the conversation what exactly Madison's contribution was to the constitution (I should have known!), and specifically it was the writing of the Federalist papers which led to the ratification of the constitution.

James Madison's misunderstanding of the definition of Democracy is outlined in this downloadable essay (pdf) from Kenn's site. (This is taken, in turn, from the Democracy Defined book itself):


It was in No. 10 of the federal papers that Madison's false notion of Democracy appears. The following quotation from Kenn appears in the above downloadable essay - therefore also in the book:

Madison’s incorrect notion of what ‘democracy’ is, led him to a wholly fallacious derogation, seen in #10 of the Federal Papers, and it is this false premise upon which all his previous and subsequent extrapolations about ‘democracy’ in that work are posited. However, in due course Madison retracted and corrected his insidious, mistaken idea about ‘democracy’; a fact too often overlooked by scholars; and which remains recondite, perhaps unknown, to the rest.

One is gratified to observe that, with the passage of time, while not openly and explicitly rectifying his wrong ‘definition’ and the consequential erroneous surmises contained in #10, Madison’s further writings and actions did prove beyond any doubt that his earlier misconceptions about democracy had been superseded, eradicated, and, de facto, reversed. 

D'OUDNEY, Kenn, Democracy Defined: The Manifesto, p. 48, SRC Publishing Ltd. London, 2nd edition, ISBN 9781902848280

For a quick overview and understanding, it is worth reading my original very short 'essay' from ages ago: Democracy IS to be trusted after all: